Egypt 2013: It isn't over until its over - Aftermath

Egypt 2013: It isn't over until its over 

On the brink of a bloodbath - Aftermath With Thierry Meyssan by Permission

For added perspective read:

"Before our very eyes" Does Morsi’s fate foreshadow that of the Muslim Brotherhood? by Thierry Meyssan Voltaire Network | 8 July 2013

Understanding the psychology and mindset of the people of Egypt and the Arab Spring spreading world wide, is essential to understanding why we are still only in the beginning stages ...its not over until its over ...up to and including its effect on the United States and obviously, Israel.

Fri, 16/08/2013 - 18:58

The presidency is holding an international press conference on Saturday at 3 p.m. Cairo Time to explain the situation.

Journalists and news agencies, accredited at the presidency or not, would be allowed to cover the conference. 

Clashes between supporters of deposed President Mohamed Morsy and security forces had erupted in Cairo and a number of provinces, in protest against the dispersal of the Rabaa al-Adaweya and al-Nahda sit-ins, which killed 578 people and injured more than 4000.


Faculty of Engineering, Cairo's University

The Egyptian Health Ministry updated the death toll from clashes Wednesday during the evacuation of two pro-Morsi protest camps in Cairo to 638. USA TODAY 3:10 p.m. EDT August 15, 2013

The country was relatively calm Thursday although the Muslim Brotherhood vows to overthrow the Egyptian military regime.

French President Francois Hollande had the Egyptian ambassador on the carpet to denounce Wednesday’s military operation, an unusual diplomatic procedure normally left to foreign ministries. The Egyptian envoy to London was called to the Foreign Office to hear British concerns.

In the ensuing clashes, which spilled out of the Egyptian capital to other towns and cities around the country, at least 343 people were killed and almost 3,000 injured, according to a Thursday tally of the country’s Health Ministry. 

The opposition claims that the number of casualties was much higher, with a Muslim Brotherhood spokesman saying more than 4,500 people have been killed in what he described as a “massacre.”  

It isn't over until its over

In a fight for democracy and the removal of Mubarak, no sooner than the election and installation of the new president (Morsi), Egyptians found themselves with another oppressive leader supported by the current US administration who has attempted to throw out their Constitution and essentially be a dictator in the name and policies of the Muslim Brotherhood.

With Morsi in custody Muslim Brotherhood henchmen have escaped to Gaza to regroup on Israel's border with a command post based in Gaza amid well armed adversaries of Israel for more violence in Egypt.

In 2009 Hizbollah confirms broad aid for Hamas Beirut

“We have always said that we supported the resistance in Palestine but we have not mentioned how or given details of such support,” Sheikh Qassem said, in a rare interview at a secret location in southern Beirut. “But Egypt has now revealed that we have given military support to Palestine. We have done so for a while but we have not talked about it.”

Sheikh Naim Qassem’s frank comments to the Financial Times are the first clear confirmation of Hizbollah’s broad assistance to the Palestinian Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip.



"Syria is already in the grips of the civil war ... and Egypt is moving in the same direction," Russian President Vladimir Putin told state news agency RIA Novosti.

Understanding the dynamics of events continuing to develop in Egypt and Syria requires research this study on the issues in Egypt brings perspective to the escalating crisis.

Unfolding events in Egypt continue as predicted

As the world watched events unfold in Egypt, the inevitable 'bloodbath' as predicted later in this article, came to pass following warnings to ousted Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood supporters from the Egyptian Military determined to quell protests.


Follow Breaking News events on Morsi ouster: with LIVE UPDATES Russia Today

Continuing live BBC Middle East updates are also below for comparable information as events unfold.

Wednesday, August 14

Scores are dead as Egypt descends into chaos following a brutal crackdown on massive sit-ins in support of deposed President Mohamed Morsi. Morsi supporters have been rallying since July 3 demanding his reinstatement.

Egypt bloodshed as camps stormed
BBC Middle East Wednesday, August 14, 2013 at 10:45:37 PM EET


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    In addition to the civilian death toll, the health ministry official reports 43 police officers killed, say reports - making a total of 278 dead.
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    According to al-Jazeera, 61 people were killed in Rabaa al-Adawiya, the main pro-Morsi encampment. A further 21 people died in Nahda Square and 18 were killed in Helwan. The rest of the deaths were reported in other parts of Egypt, the network said.
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    An Egyptian health official has updated Wednesday's civilian death toll, according to media reports. The official says suggest 235 people have died in the violence and 2,001 are injured. The count could rise further, the official warns.

Egyptian interim Vice President, Nobel laureate Mohamed ElBaradei announces resignation CAIRO - Agence France-Presse

Egyptian Vice President, Nobel laureate Mohamed ElBaradei, announced his resignation in a letter to the interim president on Aug. 14 seen by AFP.

The resignation comes after scores were killed in a crackdown by security forces on loyalists of deposed elected President Mohamed Morsi.

"It has become too difficult to continue bearing responsibility for decisions I do not agree with and whose consequences I fear," ElBaradei said.

At the scene

14 August 2013

Witness: Chaos and blood as Egypt forces storm protest camp CAIRO | Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:28am EDT Reuters

First came the tear gas, the bulldozers and the flames. Then came the bullets and the blood.


Egypt's security forces arrived after dawn on Wednesday to disperse the camp where thousands of Islamists have held vigil for six weeks. Helicopters roared above. Police fired tear gas into the crowd. Armored bulldozers knocked down the makeshift walls made of sandbags and piles of rocks. Read More

27 July 2013

More than 100 people have been killed and 1,500 injured at a protest held by supporters of ousted Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi in Cairo, doctors say. BBC News

'There were pools of blood all over the field hospital. Many of the injured were in bad shape. Some had parts of their head missing - taken out by bullets.

The battle raged last night and all morning. We heard automatic gunfire. Protesters formed a human shield around us as shotguns and CS gas were fired towards us. There was the sound of outgoing shots too. The air was thick with tear gas and people were vomiting.'

The BBC's Jim Muir: "The casualties are mounting".  

What we are about to see is only the beginning

Behind the scenes

Perspective: Pentagon Behind Egypt Military Coup: Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, July 07, 2013 Press TV


Read transcript of complete interview via Global Research >link<

As the inevitable continues to unfold, the psychology behind current events and potential for deadly violence, the following is important to read and understand recent history and the psychology behind current events as predicted.

In a quest for understanding events unfolding in Egypt prior to the ouster of then President Hosni Mubarak amid 'The Arab Spring', The Endrun Project had the opportunity to discover the following perspective and share with the French author's permission which has proven to be insightful (to say the least) ...then and now.

1 February 2011

Egypt on the brink of a bloodbath
Thierry Meyssan by permission from Beirut (Lebanon)

The mainstream media are enthralled by the demonstrations in Egypt and are heralding the advent of a Western-style democracy throughout the Middle East. Thierry Meyssan refutes this interpretation.

According to him, antagonistic forces have been set in motion, the outcome of which will turn against the order imposed by the United States in the region.

For the past week (of 1 February 2011), western media have echoed reports about the demonstrations and repression rattling major Egyptian cities. They draw a parallel with the events that brought down Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali in Tunisia and speak about a wind of revolt that is sweeping the Arab world. According to them, the movement could stretch to Libya and Syria. They further speculate that it should favour secular democratic sectors rather than Islamic forces since the influence of the clergy has been overestimated by the Bush administration and the "mollah regime" of Iran acts as a deterrent. Thus, the wish expressed by Barack Obama at Cairo University will be fulfilled: democracy will reign in the Middle East.

This analysis is erroneous in all respects.

- In the first place, the demonstrations in Egypt started several months ago. Western media ignored them, thinking they were short-lived. The Egyptians were not infected by the Tunisians, but the latter opened the eyes of the Western world to what was happening in that region.

- Secondly, the Tunisian people rose up against a corrupt government and administration that progressively brought all of society to its knees, stripping the ever expanding social classes of all hope. The Egyptian revolt is not aimed against this mode of exploitation, but against a government and administration that are so engrossed in serving the interests of foreign powers that they have no energy left to tend to the basic needs of the population.

In recent years, Egypt has been rocked by numerous riots, either in protest against the Egyptian Government’s collaboration with Zionism or fueled by hunger. These two factors are closely intertwined. The protestors raise pell-mell issues such as the Camp David accords, the Gaza siege, Egypt’s Nile water rights, the partition of Sudan, the housing crisis, unemployment, injustice and poverty.

Moreover, Tunisia was administered by a police regime, whereas Egypt is under the military boot. I use the term "administered" - and not "governed"- since in both cases, we are dealing with States under post-colonial tutelage, which lack both a foreign policy and an independent defense. Consequently, while in Tunisia the army came between the population and the dictator’s police forces, in Egypt the problem will be settled through a shootout among the military.

- Thirdly, what is occurring in Tunisia and Egypt is unquestionably a sign of hope for all oppressed peoples; however, these are not the same people that the media have in mind. For the journalists, the villains are those governments that challenge - or pretend to challenge - Western policies. But for the people, the tyrants are those who exploit and humiliate them. For this reason, I don’t believe that we will be seeing similar revolts explode in Syria.

The Syrians are proud of the Bachar el-Assad government: he sided with the Resistance and managed to safeguard his national interests without ever capitulating to pressure. Most of all, he was able to shield his country from the fate contrived by Washington: either chaos like Iraq or Saudi-style religious despotism. Admittedly, many features of his management style are contested, but he is developing a middle class together with the democratic decision-making processes that underpin it. By contrast, such countries like Jordan and Yemen are breeding grounds for instability and the contagion could also hit Black Africa, Senegal in particular.

- Fourthly, western media are discovering rather late that the Islamic threat is merely a scarecrow. But it is still necessary to acknowledge that it was activated by the United States under the Clinton administration and by France in Algeria during the 1990’s with François Mitterand at the helm, then blown up by the Bush administration in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks, and fueled by the European neo-conservative governments of Blair, Merkel and Sarkozy. It would also time to recognise that there is no common measure between Saudi Wahhabism and the Islamic Revolution of Rouhollah Khomeini. Labeling both as "Islamists" is not only absurd, it is also an obstinate refusal to understand what is really happening.

In collusion with the United States, the Saudis funded sectarian Muslim groups that preached for a resurgence of Seventh-century society as they dreamed of it during the era of Prophet Muhammad. They have just as much impact in the Arab World as the Amish in the United States, with their horse and buggy.

The aim of the Khomeiny Revolution is not to erect the ideal religious society, but to reverse the system of world dominance. It predicates that political action is a means of self-sacrifice and self-transcendence and that, consequently, man can draw from Islam the necessary energy for change.

The Middle East populations have no intention of replacing the police and military dictatorships that have crushed them with a religious dictatorship. So, there is no Islamic danger. At the same time, the Islamic revolutionary ideal that has already given rise to the Hezbollah in the Lebanese Shia community is also animating the Hamas amid the Sunni community in Palestine. This element is likely to play a role in the bourgeoning mouvements and, indeed, is already playing one in Egypt.

- Fifthly, with all due respect to certain observers, even if social issues are again in the forefront, the ongoing movement cannot be reduced to simply a matter of class struggle. Obviously the ruling classes fear popular revolutions, but things are more complicated. Hence, not surprisingly, King Abdallah of Saudi Arabia called on President Obama to stop the mayhem in Egypt and to protect incumbent governments in the region, starting with his own.

However, the same King has also recently endorsed the democratic change of regime that took place in Lebanon. He turned his back on Lebanese-Saudi billionaire Saad Hariri and helped the 8-March coalition, comprising Hezbollah, replace him with Lebanese-Saudi billionaire, Najib Mikati. Hariri had been elected by parliamentarians that represented 45% of the electorate, while Mikati’s win was secured by a group representing 70% of the voters. Hariri cowered to Paris and Washington; Mikati has pledged to enact a policy favouring the national Resistance. At the present juncture, the struggle against the Zionist project overrides the question of class interests. Moreover, more than wealth distribution, the protesters are challenging the pseudo-liberal capitalist system imposed by the Zionists.

- Sixthly, reverting to the situation in Egypt, Western media threw themselves at Mohamed ElBaradei, hailing him as the leader of the opposition. That’s laughable! Mr. ElBaradei enjoys a respectable reputation in Europe for having held out against the Bush administration for some time, without ever completely opposing it. He incarnates the good conscience of Europe with respect to Iraq, considering its flip-flop stance over the war. 

Objectively, however, Mr. ElBaradei is a luke-warm personality who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize only to keep Hans Blix from getting it. Most important, he doesn’t carry any weight inside his own country. His only political existence is limited to his role as spokesperson of the Muslim Brotherhood in front of the Western media.

The United States has come up with opponents who are more representative, such as Ayman Nour, whom they will soon pull out of a hat, despite the fact that his defense of pseudo-liberal economic policies disqualifies him in light of the crisis that is ripping the country.

In any event, there are only two mass organisations with any real popular roots, which have for a long time spoken out against the current policies: on the one hand, the Muslim Brotherhood and, on the other, the Coptic Christian Church (even though H.H. Pope Shenouda III distinguishes between Mubarak’s Zionist policies which he opposes and the Rais figure that he accepts to deal with). This detail escaped the Western media which were too busy persuading public opinion that the Copts were being persecuted at the hands of the Muslims while they were, in fact, being victimised by the Mubarak dictatorship.

A small digression is required at this point: Hosni Mubarak has just named Omar Suleiman vice-president. It is a measure aimed at rendering more difficult his eventual physical ousting by the United States. Mubarak became president because he had been designated vice-president before the United States had president Anwar El Sadat taken out by Ayman al-Zawahiri’s group.

Consequently, he has until now always refused to appoint a vice-president for fear of being assassinated in turn. In Omar Suleiman he chose one of his accomplices, who also has Sadat’s blood on his hands. Henceforth, to take over power, it will not be enough to kill the president, the vice-president will have to be eliminated as well. Omar Suleiman being the chief architect of Egypt’s collaboration with Israel, Washington and London will protect him like the apple of their eye.

What is more, Suleiman can lean on Tsahal against the White House. He has already arranged for the arrival of Israeli material and snipers, ready to kill the ringleaders among the crowd.


- Lastly, the current situation lays bare the contradictions within the U.S. administration. In his Cairo University speech, Barack Obama had offered to extend a hand to Muslims and had called for democracy. ...
Egypt on the brink of a bloodbath (continued below)


Like Americans ...the Egyptians discovered that Mr. Obama's outreach fell significantly short of his silver tongue. 

It is worth the time to backtrack and compare today, with the way it was then.

The Historic President Obama Speech to Muslim World in Cairo
Uploaded by on Jun 4, 2009

Egypt on the brink of a bloodbath (continued) ...

Today, however, he will make every effort to prevent democratic elections in Egypt from taking place. If he can put up with a legitimate government in Tunisia, he cannot do the same in Egypt. Elections would play out in favour of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Copts, who would form a government that would open the Gaza border and liberate the millions of people who are locked inside. With the support of their neighbours - Lebanon, Syria and Egypt - the Palestinians would overthrow the Zionist yoke.

It should be noted that over the last two years, Israeli strategists have been concocting a foul trick. Considering that Egypt is a social time bomb, that revolution is both inevitable and imminent, they planned to facilitate a coup d’Etat in favour of an ambitious and incompetent officer. In their scheme, the latter was supposed to launch an abortive war against Israel. Tel-Aviv would thus have recovered its military prestige and reconquered Mount Sinai with its natural riches. But Washington is resolutely against this scenario, which would be too difficult to control.

Ultimately, the Anglo-American Empire is still anchored to the principles laid down in 1945: to support those democracies that make the "right choice" (that of servility) and to oppose the nations that make the "wrong choice" (that of independence).

Consequently, if they deem it necessary, Washington and London will endorse without any qualms a bloodbath in Egypt, provided that the military who wins the upper hand pledges to maintain the international status quo.

The Endrun Project shares this French/European perspective on the subject without endorsement, as reproduced in its entirety by written permission of Thierry Meyssan


Thierry Meyssan

French political analyst, founder and chairman of the Voltaire Network and the Axis for Peace conference. He publishes columns dealing with international relations in daily newspapers and weekly magazines in Arabic, Spanish and Russian. Last books published in English : 9/11 the Big Lie and Pentagate.

Understanding the 'Arab Spring'

Since recent events in the Middle East focusing on Israel, Iran and Syria speak increasingly often of a military strike by Israel against Iran and/or Syria, people world wide are coming forward with questions as Prophetic pieces of a great puzzle are rapidly fitting together ...despite efforts of 'all the king's horses and all the king's men' to stop a runaway train.

The timing and near miraculous movement now being referred to as the 'Arab Spring' still remains misunderstood by many.

The systemic progress and why it isimportant to understand the relevance of 'The Arab Spring' and where it can lead is a step toward understanding the significance of prophesy in sortingoutevents impacting America's future.

The Arab Spring
Rashid Khalidi

March 21, 2011 edition of The Nation.

Three things should be said about this sea change in perceptions about Arabs, Muslims and Middle Easterners. The first is that it shows how superficial, and how false, were most Western media images of this region. Virtually all we heard about were the ubiquitous terrorists, the omnipresent bearded radicals and their veiled companions trying to impose Sh
aria and the corrupt, brutal despots who were the only option for control of such undesirables. In US government-speak, faithfully repeated by the mainstream media, most of that corruption and brutality was airbrushed out through the use of mendacious terms like “moderates” (i.e., those who do and say what we want). That locution, and the one used to denigrate the people of the region, “the Arab street,” should now be permanently retired.

The second feature of this shift in perceptions is that it is very fragile. Even if all the Arab despots are overthrown, there is an enormous investment in the “us versus them” view of the region. This includes not only entire bureaucratic empires engaged in fighting the “war on terror,” not only the industries that supply this war and the battalions of contractors and consultants so generously rewarded for their services in it; it also includes a large ideological archipelago of faux experti
se, with vast shoals of “terrorologists” deeply committed to propagating this caricature of the Middle East. These talking heads who pass for experts have ceaselessly affirmed that terrorists and Islamists are the only thing to look for or see. They are the ones who systematically taught Americans not to see the real Arab world: the unions, those with a commitment to the rule of law, the tech-savvy young people, the feminists, the artists and intellectuals, those with a reasonable knowledge of Western culture and values, the ordinary people who simply want decent opportunities and a voice in how they are governed. The “experts” taught us instead that this was a fanatical people, a people without dignity, a people that deserved its terrible American-supported rulers. Those with power and influence who hold these borderline-racist views are not going to change them quickly, if at all: for proof, one needs only a brief exposure to the sewer that is Fox News. 

Third, things could easily and very quickly change for the worse in the Arab world, and that could rapidly erode these tender new perceptions. Nothing has yet been resolved in any Arab country, 


'This isn't about politics, ideology, philosophy or religion. The way things are shaping up ...Humanity is at about five minutes to midnight ...or in other words on the edge of oblivion, much of which rides on the region surrounding Israel and the existence of Israel itself being held in the hands of a tiny group of global decision makers with conflicting interests fondly referred to world wide as 'neo-cons','global elite' and less desirable labels.
' some point, it will be too late for effective political action. ... there reaches a point where it won’t matter who’s president and it won’t matter how devoted the global community is ...the damage will be out of control.'

Americans and all of Humanity deserve better than the malignancy at the controls of global affairs. Any hope for true peace will only come if the evil resisting Humanity's efforts is removed.' from; Israel 2012: Little time for diplomacy What could and what will happen ...unless!

Watch out that no one deceives you! Matthew 24

Suggested reading:

The theory of 'manageable chaos' put into practice 01.03.2011
Sergei Shashkov, political scientist

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The Technological Revolution and the Future of Freedom, Part 3